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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:34
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Is it any wonder people are unhappy about infighting when the PR agency for Brad/4N tries to start public fights on Twitter? This came out of the blue. It is very misjudged. Notice she did it in a way to broadcast to everyone, not privately. An attempt to publicly discredit me.

Is this what Brad pays for?

This was 5 minutes ago.

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@PRMIra says: I don't watch Dragons Den. Is @lingscars a Dragon?

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@LINGsCARS says: No, but you are trying to kick off an argument. Typical PR rubbish.


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@PRMira says: No, just asking, because on your website it says you are FROM the show. I don't watch it, never have, so wanted clarification.

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@LINGsCARS says: No you aren't, you are trying to start an argument. Please don't. Go away. Typical PR rubbish

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@PRMira says: No, just checking. You know how important it is not to make misleading statements in PR, right? Thanks for explaining anyway.

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@LINGsCARS says: As I say, you trying to fight...

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@PRMira says: Don't worry, I understand now that you've explained, you were a contestant. Thanks for the info. Laters.

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@LINGsCARS says: I did not explain. You are lying again. Typical PR rubbish.

@LINGsCARS says: @BradBurton Brad, @PRMira trying to start a fight. It's really not a great idea that. I could do without ur PR annoying me, thx.

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@PRMira says: You did, you said you weren't a Dragon. So I understand.

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@LINGsCARS says: The word "no" is not an explanation. You trying to start fight. Please stop this in public it's stupid. It looks stupid. Childish.

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... and I am sure it will go on until Brad tells her to stop.

Ho hum... anyone wanting to know who on 4N causes trouble, I think this is a true answer. It is unfortunate when an organisation's own PR company is unleashed against its members.

A very bad error of judgement, this.

 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:38
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PR Mira asked you a perfectly rational question. You responded with a phrase that she has already said, many times, she is not happy with.

So who's starting the fight? Even knowing the background to this, your responses are bitchy. Without the background you just come across as plain rude.

Sorry ... just saying


 

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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:42
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Zzz


 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:43
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PR Mira asked you a perfectly rational question. You responded with a phrase that she has already said, many times, she is not happy with.

So who's starting the fight? Even knowing the background to this, your responses are bitchy. Without the background you just come across as plain rude.

Sorry ... just saying

Alison, no.

She has just asked:

@PRMira says: Just asking a question about an ambiguous statement on your site. Isn't that what you pull people up on?

This is clearly 4N's PR Agency tryng to start a fight on Twitter. It is not good.

 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:46
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Zzz Ling in hurt innocence shocker.


 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:47
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Brad, it's not good that the 4N PR agency spends their time on Twitter deliberately cause trouble with me.

Your disinterest is about the only response you can make that distances you from it. Did you ask her to do this?

 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:48
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:54
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But it is ambiguous! Your website states "I am Ling from Dragons' Den". To me, that says you are either the presenter of DD or one of the Dragons, rather than "Ling, as seen on Dragons' Den once."

So given the relationship you two have here now, and the fact that you have been questioning the validity of the claims that other businesses make, it's perfectly ok IMHO that she should seek clarification of a statement you make on your own site - because it is ambiguous.

And anyway, Mira is a person in her own right, and is commenting as PR Mira, not as anything to do with 4Networking. I'm an AL for 4N and I promote the groups, forum etc but that doesn't mean that I am representing their view in everything I say and do.


 

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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:57
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Um, surely it is Mira who's business it is. She is allowed to express her own opinions. Does it matter that 4N are a client?

You have brought it to the 4N forum and tell-taled to Brad! Why should Brad or anyone tell her to stop.



 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 12:58
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For god sake. Give it a rest already.


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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 13:03
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Alison, Alison.

PR Mira is 4N's PR Agency. She is trying to start a fight with a member on Twitter.

I am sure she is a person in her own right, but she is 4N's PR person. Which really means she should attempt to protect the organisation, not start public online fights on Twitter with members.

It's just irresponsible and pretty stupid. You can tell from her response that she wasn't looking for the question to be answered, she simply wanted to start a fight. Is this as good as it gets 4N?

I get the feeling she should really speak for herself... and no kidding, this really is true PR Rubbish. It does no one any good. Pointless.

I just want to show members here what goes on, don't rock the boat or the PR dogs get unleashed. No one will admit or deny if she was instructed. Either way, it is pretty stupid and calls into question the PR expertise.

 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 13:03
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A fight is only a fight if someone fights back surely? People often throw stuff at me, if I don't want a fight I don't respond.

 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 13:07
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I don't see any mention of 4N in any of the above tweets?



 
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  • Posted: 11th Nov 2010 - 13:08
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Careful everyone or the do gooders will accuse you of bullying:D

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