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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 07:57

A passenger jet coming in to land at Heathrow airport had a near miss with a UFO, according to newly-released Ministry of Defence files.

 

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One of the UFO sighting sketches in the newly-released files

 

The captain of the Alitalia airliner was so concerned he shouted "look out" to his co-pilot after seeing the brown missile-shaped object shoot past them overhead.

The mysterious incident near Lydd in Kent in 1991 was thoroughly investigated by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) and the military.

 

 

But having ruled out the object being a missile, weather balloon or space rocket, the MoD closed the inquiry and left the matter unsolved.

The unexplained close encounter is one of many recounted in military UFO documents made available online today by the National Archives.

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The 19 UFO Files Include:

    :: US Air Force pilot's account of being ordered to shoot down a UFO.

    :: MoD request that Army and Navy helicopters should not take photos of crop circles. 

    :: Letter from a woman claiming to be an alien.

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The McDonnell Douglas MD80 aircraft was en route from Milan to Heathrow at 22,000ft with 57 people on board when pilot Achille Zaghetti saw the strange object 1,000ft above him.

He recounted: "At once I said, 'look out, look out,' to my co-pilot, who looked out and saw what I had seen.

"As soon as the object crossed us I asked to the ACC (area control centre) operator if he saw something on his screen and he answered 'I see an unknown target 10nm (nautical miles) behind you'."

A CAA document notes that Southern TV broadcast a story about a 14-year-old boy who reported seeing a missile flying at low level before climbing through the cloud and disappearing on the same evening.

An unnamed Whitehall official wrote: "It is our intention to treat this sighting like that of any other Unidentified Flying Object and therefore we will not be undertaking any further investigation."

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There were, however, a number of other similar incidents recorded the same year.

On June 17 1991 four passengers on board a Dan Air Boeing 737 saw a "wingless projectile" pass beneath the aircraft as it climbed from Gatwick Airport headed for Hamburg.

Then on July 15 the pilot of a Britannia Airways 737 reported seeing a "small black lozenge-shaped object" travelling at speed as they approached Gatwick.

Former US Air Force fighter pilot Milton Torres was convinced he had an encounter with an alien spaceship in the skies over England in the 1950s.

He was warned to keep quiet about the incident, but eventually talked about it 31 years later, the newly-released files show.

On the night of May 20 1957, Dr Torres, then aged 25, was on standby at RAF Manston in Kent when he received an urgent order to scramble.

He was told to intercept a UFO with "very unusual flight patterns" over East Anglia that ground radar operators had been tracking for some time.

It was so cloudy he could not see anything, but the object showed up clearly on his radar as similar in size to a B-52 bomber.

He was then ordered to fire a full salvo of 24 rockets at the object - something that came as a sobering shock to him.

But before he could carry out this instruction the UFO suddenly darted off and disappeared from his scope in a matter of seconds.

The next day a man claiming to be from the US National Security Agency threatened him with losing his flying status if he told anyone what happened.

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I think it was an alien spacecraft. It had a propulsion system that was beyond us - either magnetism or anti-gravity.

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The Ministry of Defence tried to stop military helicopter crews photographing crop circles for fear that this contradicted the official line that it had no interest in the phenomenon, the files show.

In 1991 the Centre for Crop Circle Studies wrote to the department highlighting cases where military aircraft had apparently hovered over fields where the elaborate patterns had appeared.

This concerned the MoD so much that it wrote to Army and Navy chiefs asking them to ensure this did not happen again.

One of the more eccentric letters sent to the department, dated March 1990, was from a woman claiming to be an alien.

She said her spaceship came down in Britain during the Second World War and was recovered by the military.

Another letter, dated January 1991, tells of an encounter with two aliens who landed their flying saucer next to a railway track near Warminster Army barracks in Wiltshire.


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 07:58
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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 08:09

Give people a 2,000 page book of comprehensive information, sound guidance on conducting every aspect of our lives and a man who performed miracles and what do you get? Doubt & Derision

Give people a silly picture drawn by a (probably drunk) Italian pilot and what do you get? Proof Absolute that there is life on other planets.


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 11:09

UFO worship as silly as all the other religions and about as factual tbh


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 11:29

Judging by the picture, the pilot had had one too many tequilas at the Mexican the night before. Love the alien picture - obviously with all races other than the human one looks are not important.


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 11:30

Well, UFOs by definition clearly exist.  And quite probably a man called Jesus once had a big party, got people pissed and told them that the wine they were drinking was once water.


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 18:41

Look, avoiding the religious stuff, cos you all know where I stand on that ( from previous posts!) the UFO at Heathrow was flight BA1337, expected five weeks ago.  Clearly, the pilot looks a bit dehydrated, but I would not be overly harsh about that.

The passengers were still meekly waiting for the outbound useof the aircraft, having read the remaining airport stocks of the Hallo magazine 18 times each.

They of course, are not dehydrated, but badly drunk.


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 18:47

I've never quite understood how people can dismiss the concept of aliens and spacecraft so easily. After all, we can fly to the moon and Mars, and we've only been doing space travel for half a century. The way I see it, it's a mad idea to believe that earth is the only planet out of the billions that exist that has developed life; other planets might have developed life billions of years before it appeared on earth and so they could be billions of years ahead of us technologically - which could mean they have developed the means to travel through time and space. Just because we can't do it yet doesn't mean it's impossible!

Yeah okay, I was a big X Files fan - but there's no evidence that extraterrestrial life doesn't exist, is there? The idea of alines being out there is far more credible, IMHO, than the idea that there is a god.


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I've never quite understood how people can dismiss the concept of aliens and spacecraft so easily. After all, we can fly to the moon and Mars, and we've only been doing space travel for half a century. The way I see it, it's a mad idea to believe that earth is the only planet out of the billions that exist that has developed life; other planets might have developed life billions of years before it appeared on earth and so they could be billions of years ahead of us technologically - which could mean they have developed the means to travel through time and space. Just because we can't do it yet doesn't mean it's impossible!

Yeah okay, I was a big X Files fan - but there's no evidence that extraterrestrial life doesn't exist, is there? The idea of alines being out there is far more credible, IMHO, than the idea that there is a god.

It's very easy to dismiss aliens and their spacecraft for one simple reason:

It's plain daft and has zero positive evidence!

I enjoy watching a good sci-fi movie myself, but it is only entertainment!

 


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 19:14

Zero negative evidence either though ...


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Zero negative evidence either though ...

 Nowt on the moon, nowt on Mars. that's 2 out of 2!

 


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 19:29

Two out of about a gazillion!


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 19:34

god help creationism when life is proved on other planets


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Posted on 20th Oct 2008 at 19:39

Here we go again...

 


 

 


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Two out of about a gazillion!

It's still 100% of the evidence to date. I can't do better than 100% of what is available!! Until there is at least SOME positive evidence, I can't just go with unsupported "maybe's".

If it was a football match and the score was 2-0, you would surely say that one side was winning. Of course, the other side MAY come back (except Tottenham), but the evidence at that point in time would be more in favour of the team with 2 than the team with nil!!


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