 CAN YOU HELP? [Flash HTML players] |
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Posted on 27th Nov 2008 at 20:01
Does anyone out there know anything about embedding flash movies - ie video (independantly of sites like youtube) into html....?
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Posted on 27th Nov 2008 at 21:17
What do you need to know Michael?
 Karen
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Posted on 27th Nov 2008 at 21:28
I think i've just found a good solution... unless anyone knows a completely free even for commercial use player?
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Posted on 27th Nov 2008 at 21:34
Why would you want an inde version to embed a movie. Don't use YouTube for website / clients however use blip.tv
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 00:04
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 00:18
Quote: Mikey
Does anyone out there know anything about embedding flash movies - ie video (independantly of sites like youtube) into html....?
Yes. I do it on my video site, Julian Wellings Films. Although I'm a fan of Blip.tv I don't use it on my own site because like YouTube they compress video files, although not quite as drastically as YouTube do.
Some good advice above Michael, but if you want to know more about how I do it drop me a PM or an email.
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 04:21
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Micheal - it's very straight forward (when you know how!)
Take a look at a site I recently built for a client that features video and audio.
Let me know if you need a hand.
Lee... cant find the video... help!
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 10:53
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 12:40
Hi Michael
We host all our client videos on our own dedicated web server so that they can embed the video wherever they want to, including here on the 4N site. This way we can avoid compression entirely and keep maximum quality for our flash videos - it's also much less hassle for our clients. If you still require help give me a call - maybe we can sort something out for you.
Dave Harries
www.bizview.tv
01793 858215
07989 448670
Web Video that Works
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 13:47
Interesting Dave, compression is an issue when hosting on free video sites. What would you say is the optimum file size for say a 3 minute video?
Some people have said to me you need to keep file sizes small for users on slow broadband but obviously if you make the file too small quality suffers.
Make the file too big and quality improves but you then get the problem of video 'stuttering' as the video tries to download.
I try to strike a happy medium and go for around 6-8Mb for a 3 minute piece. I also did some testing with a friend who is on a slow 1Mb connection and his feedback was positive.
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 14:23
The files i have here are around 30 secs long and are all around the 1mb area... So looks like i'm spot on (ish) if Julians happy medium is the way to go.
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 16:09
Julian/Michael, we've been wrestling with this issue since day one. File size versus quality. First of all we solved the upload problem by getting the fastest connection to the web we could find for our dedicated server - so that can handle more or less any format / file size very smoothly. However, as you quite rightly point out some people's broadband can be very slow (including my own at home) which can cause the video to pause as it loads in the background. Our decision in the end was to keep the original file quality and suffer occassional download problems with some viewers (advising that they can pause the video whilst it loads if necessary). We use a very good flash encoder to convert from the original video files- it retains quality but the resulting files are a lot bigger than some. Our experience has been that we get very few complaints about stuttering and a lot of compliments about the high quality of our pictures. There is no perfect answer to this question but with a 3 minute flash video coming in at around 10mb we are finding most people satisfied with our playback.
This one is just over 10mb so you can try it for yourself....
Dave Harries
www.bizview.tv
01793 858215
07989 448670
Web Video that Works
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Posted on 28th Nov 2008 at 16:51
Dave, What flash encoder do you use?
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Posted on 01st Dec 2008 at 19:21
Sorry Michael for long delay in replying - didn't check this bit of the forum and got a bit distracted by a certain Rugby game in Cardiff over the weekend.
I need to chat with my Business partner Paul re flash encoder as he does all the technical web stuff. I know it's one we bought, as opposed to downloading for free, and we chose it after a lot of testing of rival products. I'll try and get you the info you need and PM it to you or post it here.
Dave Harries
www.bizview.tv
01793 858215
07989 448670
Web Video that Works
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Posted on 02nd Dec 2008 at 10:33
If you host your own videos you really need a decent host, not cheap mass-market hosting. A good indicator of hosting quality is how much you are paying for it and reverse IP reports (not always 100% accurate) to show how many other websites are on the same server. Both of these factors give an indication as to how many websites are on the same server (the cheaper the hosting the more websites that are stuffed on the same server), and this slows down video, image and page loads in general, since all of those sites are trying to share the same network connection.
For example this domaintools whois report shows in the reverse IP field that there are 1431 websites on the same IP address, and the server is in the US, which probably isn't a good starting point for hosting video.
As for video tools, we have used version 1 of www.flashvideostudio.com in the past, for the video gallery of our Tae Kwon Do club client's site. Later versions, including v3 of the tool, should provide better compression and quality since they are using more recent versions of the flash video codecs.
To give you a rough idea of bandwidth, with our client and v1 of Flash Video Studio, we found that 5 seconds flash video at a decent size and quality, and with a static camera (tripod) and background, was about 0.5 MB, for example:
www.kamstkd.com/home/a12_Video_Gallery/i3133_jump_side_kick
so by that reckoning a 30-60 second clip would be 3-6 MB
The above video clip usage assumes a static background (i.e. using a static tripod) which helps keep the compressed file size down (video compresses to smaller files when less of the pixels are changing). If you have a lot of movement including the background due to a panning or moving camera, or you are not using a tripod for a static shoot, then the file size can go up.
You could also target video clips with smaller widths and heights, which also helps keep the file size down.
For example, where the camera was moving, to get a 13 second clip just under 2MB, the width and height had to be decreased:
www.kamstkd.com/home/a12_Video_Gallery/i3200_black_belts
Paul,
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