Changes to BBC website clock will take '100 staffing days'

Caroline Woodward
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Or breakfast?

Bill Brown
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What time is it? time for a cup of tea methinks

Heather Siverns
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Lee - we share a similar pain then! :)

Dave Bradburn
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Why would anyone go to the trouble of complaining about this anyway? If they are that concerned about time, why waste it on something so trivial?

Lee Rickler
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... Or they could just bin the clock ...

hmmm ... bin the clock you say?

Meeting to decide who will be on the committee
Form committee to decide on the clocks future
Consultation on the clocks future
Possible alternatives to the clock agreed
New department formed to research alternatives to the clock ...

do I really need to go on?

Julian Wellings
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Quote: Tim

Hmm interesting.  It could actually be quite a complex issue.

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In my opinion they have already done the quick and dirty method.  They have been bought up on it and to comply with their charter they are going to have to do it now the long way.

Now you explain that Tim, it is complex. Or they could just bin the clock and spending the 100 man days making programmes!  Does it add anything to the site? Answer = probably not.

 

David Emslie
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I've got an analogue clock on the wall which is verified accurate from a radio signal from somehere or other.

Cost about £20 from Argos I expect.

Problem solved.

Ben Timberley
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The difference between consensus and committee is subtle, but important.

The BBC is a tired old warhorse, that probably needs retiring.

Lee Rickler
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Heather - many moons ago I worked on a lot for BBC online, so, yeah, I know that it can take a month just to get a simple animated gif commissioned and signed off.

Michael Mertens
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There is a clock?

'nuff said.

Julian Wellings
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So what is the time?

By the time you read this the clock will be wrong Caroline. Really impressed though that the location and the date are 100% accurate.

 

Heather Siverns
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As an ex-BBC'er I have to ask, Lee, have you ever or do you work for the Beeb as that's pretty accurate - more so than the clock!

 

Martin Gaunt
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Nice job if you can get it.

1)  It will come in over budget.

2) It will have some kind of bug.

3) The public will not like it.

Need  I go on.

4ner's e-mail your bids put the BBC to shame.

100 days wars have been won and lost in less time.

Mark Jones
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Aha, loving that Lee. Time to wheel out some of my favourite committee sayings. 

1. A commmittee is a cul de sac down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled.

2. A committee is a body of people that can make a decision that is dumber than any of its members.,

3. A committee keeps minutes and loses hours.

4. A camel looks like a horse that was planned by a committee.

5. If Columbus had an advisory committee he would probably still be at the dock.  

More here >

Nobody ever put up a monument in memory of a committee..

 

Caroline Woodward
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So what is the time?

Julian Wellings
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Aha, loving that Lee. Time to wheel out some of my favourite committee sayings. 

1. A commmittee is a cul de sac down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled.

2. A committee is a body of people that can make a decision that is dumber than any of its members.,

3. A committee keeps minutes and loses hours.

4. A camel looks like a horse that was planned by a committee.

5. If Columbus had an advisory committee he would probably still be at the dock.  

More here >

Lee Rickler
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Primary meeting organised by committee.
Consultation carried out by committee.
Finances requested by committee.
New department formed/ staff interviewed/ hired by committee.
Design by committee.
Development by committee.
Consultation on new design/ dev by committee.
Design/ dev researched by committee.
Expired changes requested by committee.
Launch party organised by committee.
Launch of new clock carried out by intern.
Inquiry into why the launch was late/ delayed/ bought the house down by committee.

Revert to step 1/ rinse/ repeat.

Julian Wellings
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From BBC Ariel:

"The BBC must take action over the analogue-style clock that features prominently on the homepage after a complaint is upheld by the BBC Trust. 
A member of the public complained that the clock on the homepage merely reproduces the time stored on an individual computer's internal system, whether it's accurate or not. The complainant added that there is no labelling which makes clear that the clock isn't independently verified and that it may not be 'factually accurate'."

Fair point. I always assumed it showed the correct time. But what gets me is further on in the article it states that
"it would take around 100 staffing days to make the changes involved in switching to an independent clock."    

Whaaat?  Why will it take so long? There must be some 4N members who could fix it quicker than that?!